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Noam Chomsky’s Verdict on 911: NO CONSPIRACY
SARAH MYER: Is England is a better place without Blair?
WHY NOAM CHOMSKY IS SKEPTICAL OF 911
Adam Howard: While acknowledging that he may be out-of-step with many of his colleagues on the left, Chomsky talks about why he doesn’t believe that 9/11 was an “inside job.” Among other things he believes that some aspect of the plan would have leaked and too many events on that day were too elaborate to have been planned to perfection and therefore would not have been worth the risk for the Bush Administration. However, he also speaks of how the attacks were the best thing to ever happen to corrupt regimes throughout the world. Check out the video to your right for more.
Comments Jerry Policoff:
This is an amazing video. Chomsky goes on at length about how 911 conspiracy theories are ridiculous without bothering to rebut any of the arguments that have been advanced suggesting the opposite (I am an agnostic on the subject of a 911 conspiracy, but unlike Chomsky I do not dismiss evidence out of hand when it seems persuasive and I lack the expertise to dismiss it). Toward the end he drags the JFK assassination into it as well (and on this I am no agnostic. I know there was a conspiracy, and I know Chomsky’s efforts to suggest the opposite are intellectually dishonest). Then he goes completely off the deep end, suggesting that even if all the conspiracy theories are true, which he suggests is “extremely unlikely,” “who cares?” “What difference would it make?”
POPULAR KULTUR
U.S. CUSTOMS OFFICIALS ABUSE TOP FINNISH BAND
JEAN HOPFENSPERGER, STAR TRIBUNE - When three of Finland’s most popular musicians, including one described as that country’s Bruce Springsteen, arrived for a recent tour in Minnesota, they expected a quick trip through airport customs. Instead, immigration agents at the Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport subjected them to more than two hours of interrogation that the musicians considered so harsh and demeaning that they filed a formal complaint with the U.S. Embassy in Helsinki.
“It was almost three hours of screaming, door-slamming and accusations, according to the report I received,” said Marianne Wargelin, honorary Finnish consul for the Dakotas and most of Minnesota, which has the second largest Finnish-American population in the nation.
Erkki Maattanen, a filmmaker for Finnish Public Television who accompanied the musicians on the September trip, said his questioners seemed to think the entourage was smuggling drugs or intending to work without a permit. “I kept trying to tell them why we were here, but they’d just yell, ‘Shut up!”‘ he said. . .
“They threatened us with severe punishments if we talk to each other,” according to the complaint signed by musicians Ninni Poijärvi and Mika Kuokkanen, “Through the walls, I can hear officers yelling, screaming. They ask about the purpose of our trip — except we are only allowed to give yes-or-no answers. I try to talk about our plans to meet with Finnish-American folk musicians. Nobody listens. They interrupt me constantly and they yell, ‘You are a liar!”‘. . .
The four were eventually released with no explanation and no apology, the complaint said.
I knew some of the members of HANOI ROCKS, an earlier Finnish Band that was also not so welcome in the USSA.
LETTER: GERRY CORBIN WRITES RE MY CALIFORNIA FIRE/SUBPRIME CRIME COMMENTARY
thank you for your interesting article. I would like to bring another angle to the bailout of all those not very honest lenders…. :
Supposed that you are in 2001, a central banker, the economy going down since a good time some say 1987 but lately after 2000 bubble internet, everything is down and no way up: what do you do? You call a war (even Greenspan was pushing for war in his book!)? You create a false flag operation or use a conspiracy one from someone else and let them do the dirty work and after implement a war on terror which in fact is not more than a Halloween party..with real victim(all the world)….and you deliver hundred of billions in subsidies to build arms not needed as Mr Reagan have done in the eighties? Give contract without bids to your acquainted firends? Limited any legislation that create obligation or regulation for companies? And cut taxes for two purpose: that your loot of war get not taxed and your friend and supporter really happy…
BROOKLYN IN DA HOUSE
Hope you had a happy Halloween. I am off to Boston…..Dave Degraw is in Germany….I will be speaking/peaching Sunday at the Brooklyn, Society for Ethical Culture on Prospect in Park Slope across from Prospect Park at ll AM. Screening at l of IN DEBT WE TRUST. Be there or be square.
Your comments to Dissector@mediachannel.org
Danny citing Noam Chomsky: NO QUOTE.
Danny, you fail to quote Chomsky. He did NOT say ‘NO conspiracy,’ however, a reader sure can feel you strongly WISHING Chomsky would say ‘NO’ and you WISHING you could SHOUT THAT IN CAPITAL LETTERS, and thereby settle the matter once and for all, and make all the hubbub talkers disappear, in your mind — with us disappeared YOU DO NOT THINK about 9/11 and YOU DO NOT FEEL GUILTY for turning your eyes away from checking the facts of the matter.
Chomsky said anyone staging a Nine Eleven Op hoax would be insane to think they’d get away with it. I agree — some people ARE insane, and ‘they’ DID NOT get away with it. Chomsky said it would be complicated to stage the hoax and, anyway, there would be high probability some part might miscue — what if a plane missed hitting a Tower, he asked us, and then answered himself, ‘but it didn’t.’ Chomsky said he told world press interviews that the Nine Eleven Op would be exploited by manifest oppressive regimes, and he said he told them this within “a couple hours” after it was over — by which I think he meant around noontime on 9/11, and if that is the time he meant, then he must not consider the THIRD skyscraper mysteriously imploding later that afternoon to be part of events. But, WTC building 7 DID disappear, and Chomsky blithely ignores that.
Finally, Chomsky asked us, “who cares?” to know Nine Eleven Op was a staged hoax — by which I think he meant that knowing it does not change the effects it caused. I agree — imprisoning the criminal does not undo damages the crime caused. Imprisonment could arguably serve as deterrent of others planning such a crime. Undoing Nine Eleven Op effects is a separate concern, and requires Congress REPEAL EVERY ENACTMENT done since 9/11 of, by, or for the manufactured ‘terror’ phony baloney.
However, I do not agree nobody ‘cares’ that Nine Eleven Op is found out by people that it was a hoax. WHO CARES is the mass murderer(s) who intend that people not find out. Since, when people DO FIND OUT, the criminal(s) life is in jeopardy. THAT’s who cares. And Chomsky offers them relief, perhaps unwittingly, from their caring worry of being exposed.
You cannot prove a negative. You CAN DISPROVE a positive, though.
In other words, I get weary, and somewhat wary, listening to many wild notions and conjectures of 9/11 conspiracy details, of who did it and how it was done; and I think that you, Danny, and Chomsky, also get tired of listening and we want it all to stop — because conjecture cannot prove a negative assessment is valid.
Although, physics science CAN PROVE a positive assessment is INVALID — the official version of 9/11 events is a physical impossibility, and the stated CLAIM CAN BE DISPROVED. Perhaps when you are in Boston this time, Danny, or sometime soon, you can talk with Chomsky and he can confirm to you that the Legend of Nine Eleven — the impossible ‘magic’ you BELIEVE happened — is impossible and it did not happen, as the official version states. The following disproves it, and I think Chomsky can comprehend the science of this and I think you cannot comprehend the science, Danny, which is why I suggest you ask him in this regard.
There is energy, of gravity mostly, to cause motion of a Tower to ground level — it ‘falls down’ or ‘collapses.’ (Fire and airplane impact are dramatic-looking sensations, but those parts supply a very insignificant amount of energy COMPARED TO GRAVITY to cause motion of a Tower.) However, adding up ALL the known energy there was to move a Tower to ground level, amounts to no more than 150K kilowatt hours of energy.
That was not enough energy to cause massive tons of pulverized dust to energetically eject out and rapidly billow-up a cloud over lower Manhattan. Your version, Danny — the ‘official’ version — does not add enough energy to cause what happened; it is IMPOSSIBLE PHYSICS for gravity to cause THAT MUCH DUST. The dust cloud reaction which ACTUALLY HAPPENED, documented, measured, amounts to over 10,000K kilowatt hours of energy.
The equation to consult with Chomsky is Isaac Newton’s third law of particle motion: For every Action (energy) there is an equal and opposite Reaction (energy). You, Danny, have 150K kwh of energy in Action, and 10,000K kwh of energy in Reaction, (per Tower). Physics IMPOSSIBILITY. Chomsky can comprehend this. I think you, Danny, did not study Physics, but I don’t know. (I studied Physics while I attended MIT.) I think you, Danny, likely know that for every Action there is an equal and opposite Reaction, and that energy (amounts) can be calculated.
So do the math. Most people cannot do the math. Here it is done for you — show this to Chomsky. www.TinyURL.COM/2p8kep
It is wildly improbably possible to imagine gravity might ‘pancake’ a 100-story building onto ground level, in certain ideal conditions. However, in such a case, it is IMPOSSIBLE there is enough gravity energy to eject half the mass as pulverized microscopic dust. And you DO KNOW the dust came out, and you DO KNOW people are dying from inhaling it. The dust IS THE THING which DISPROVES the ‘official’ Legend of Nine Eleven.
Somewhere in each of three Towers making a dust cloud, there was energy, making Action, that you, Chomsky, me, and all of we the people, DO NOT KNOW about, has not been reported. That does not mean it was not there. It has to have been there for the energy equation to balance Action EQUAL Reaction. The Reaction IS KNOWN, was reported, and documented.
I get tired listening to all the conjecture of what the energy in Action was, and who put it there, and how they did it. The ‘theories’ abound. The FACT of the MATTER is more energy was there than the ‘official’ Legend accounts for, and the Tower dust clouds mean whoever put the extra energy in as Nine Eleven Op, DID NOT GET AWAY WITH HIDING IT. The dust DISPROVES the claim that gravity squished the Towers to ground level. Only testimony ANSWERS to questions can prove how who did it with what. By the way, of the 911 Commission, why is Cheney’s Bush testimony Top Secret classified?
Here are two human-scale examples of the Physics of dust, trying to convey a ‘feel’ for what happened in Nine Eleven Op, where the Tower-scale Physics math is difficult to grasp. A car wreck is a familiar phenomenon. We know, and expect, that what happens is the metal car body gets torn and bent and mangled in the wreck, and sometimes fire chars the car body. We know that what does NOT happen, in a car wreck, is for half the car body to turn into a cloud of dust. There is not enough energy to make a cloud of microscopic dust particles, even from a massive car moving at high velocity. Second example: Get an ordinary red brick and a sledgehammer. Hammer the brick and break it, shatter it, if you have the energetic strength to swing the sledge. Now continue, keep swinging, until half the brick is pulverized dust. If you have enough more energy. When you have a pile of dust, it proves you had the energy — and disproves any claim that you ‘only dropped the brick on the ground.’
Danny, you sound as false as rightwing FUXnews media when you mischaracterize Chomsky’s comments as an ultimate Verdict: NO CONSPIRACY. He did not say that.
November 1st, 2007 at 7:08 pm