Comments on: Devastating Letters to George Tenet and Rudy Giuliani http://www.newsdissector.com/blog/2007/04/30/devastating-letters-to-george-tenet-and-rudy-giuliani/ Danny Schechter's daily media dissections Mon, 13 Oct 2008 20:11:34 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.9 by: wilma ralls http://www.newsdissector.com/blog/2007/04/30/devastating-letters-to-george-tenet-and-rudy-giuliani/#comment-4345 Thu, 03 May 2007 01:19:49 +0000 http://www.newsdissector.com/blog/2007/04/30/devastating-letters-to-george-tenet-and-rudy-giuliani/#comment-4345 Stay true to yourself and get yourself whatever health services you need. Staying healthy is vitally imoirtant to all of us right now. Stay true to yourself and get yourself whatever health services you need. Staying healthy is vitally imoirtant to all of us right now.

]]> by: wilma ralls http://www.newsdissector.com/blog/2007/04/30/devastating-letters-to-george-tenet-and-rudy-giuliani/#comment-4344 Thu, 03 May 2007 01:16:28 +0000 http://www.newsdissector.com/blog/2007/04/30/devastating-letters-to-george-tenet-and-rudy-giuliani/#comment-4344 I hear you. Stay strong. Your abundance of intelligence and "common sense" will see you through this. When this is over for you, I hope that means it will be over for all of us, but I doubt it. I am a disabled 62 year old veteran of Vietnam. I am disabled because of exposure to agent orange, which I have never received any help to deal with because I worked for the "all mighty" American Red Cross and was condidered a non-combatant! And I was a bloody volunteer to boot. I went to Vietnam with my new BA degree to do something good for my country. When time came to return home, I was sick, disillusioned, and disgusted with what my country did to Southeast Asia. I did not even want to go home. The lies that got us into Vietnam are the same ones that were used to get us into Afghanistan and Iraq. Only Labels, SOME of the people, and the governments and battles are different. All they (the neocons?) really want is control ALL the OIL, which they and the corporations will use to control the world. I am still involved in the movement for truth and peace, more so since I became disabled. I expect to go on until I get too old to fight. Saving the earth is too important. It is a moral issue for me. And if we want to save the earth, we have to get rid of this administration or WE WON"T HAVE THE CHANCE! If Congress backs down now, by giving Bush money with no troop de-escalation, we may never see a 2008 election. And if we do, we won't have Dennis Kucinich to vote for as a Democrat. 'Course I will vote for him over Hillary Clinton no manner what he runs as or for...and still expect hard years to follow. The next step is going to be very important. I hear you. Stay strong. Your abundance of intelligence and “common sense” will see you through this. When this is over for you, I hope that means it will be over for all of us, but I doubt it. I am a disabled 62 year old veteran of Vietnam. I am disabled because of exposure to agent orange, which I have never received any help to deal with because I worked for the “all mighty” American Red Cross and was condidered a non-combatant! And I was a bloody volunteer to boot. I went to Vietnam with my new BA degree to do something good for my country. When time came to return home, I was sick, disillusioned, and disgusted with what my country did to Southeast Asia. I did not even want to go home. The lies that got us into Vietnam are the same ones that were used to get us into Afghanistan and Iraq. Only Labels, SOME of the people, and the governments and battles are different. All they (the neocons?) really want is control ALL the OIL, which they and the corporations will use to control the world. I am still involved in the movement for truth and peace, more so since I became disabled. I expect to go on until I get too old to fight. Saving the earth is too important. It is a moral issue for me. And if we want to save the earth, we have to get rid of this administration or WE WON”T HAVE THE CHANCE! If Congress backs down now, by giving Bush money with no troop de-escalation, we may never see a 2008 election. And if we do, we won’t have Dennis Kucinich to vote for as a Democrat. ‘Course I will vote for him over Hillary Clinton no manner what he runs as or for…and still expect hard years to follow. The next step is going to be very important.

]]> by: Cindy Jampel http://www.newsdissector.com/blog/2007/04/30/devastating-letters-to-george-tenet-and-rudy-giuliani/#comment-4314 Wed, 02 May 2007 14:48:08 +0000 http://www.newsdissector.com/blog/2007/04/30/devastating-letters-to-george-tenet-and-rudy-giuliani/#comment-4314 DOES ANYBODY CARE?……SOMEONE? WHAT SECRET IS SO HORRIFYING THAT RUDY GIULIANI ORDERED AND BERNARD KERIK CARRIED OUT THE TORTURE AND CHILD ABUSE OF TWO LITTLE GIRLS? Monday, December 11, 2006 Dear Does Anybody Care?, My name is Talia Ray, and I am writing to provide a vital part to a case that the court has undertaken involving my parents’ divorce/custody of my sister, Ava Ray, and me. Firstly, it is critical to the reader’s understanding that they are familiar with the more than likely connections Bernard Kerik (former Police Commissioner and Homeland Security nominee) has with this case. The only reason that I am aware of Mr. Kerik as the primary source of the shamelessly blatant corruption in my “complicated” or “special” case, as many DYFS workers and other Somerset County officials whom I have encountered like to call it, is the simple fact that my mother told me of Bernie’s involvement. Threatened me with it, I should say. My mother, Teresa Ray, told me in an argument we had some time around my freshman year of high school (2003 – 2004) that the judge would not allow me to live with my father, Larry Ray, in spite of my age (I was fifteen years old at the time, which gives my desire concerning the issue of with whom I would reside a little more weight.). When I questioned her apparent certainty that I would not end up living with my dad, she retorted in an overly confident tone that the judge was going to do whatever she wanted the judge to do. This outrageous claim was followed with another bizarre statement by my mother that “Bernie is helping her.” Due to the fact that my father does not involve mie in his personal business affairs (and nothing of his business affairs had yet appeared as a public topic of speculation in the media), I was unaware of the implications that statement had. My mother’s seemingly silly threats to have gained the ability to manipulate the Court into straying from truth and justice did not phase me much; I had confidence in our country’s judicial system. My father’s great respect for this country and the government we live under had always made me feel like I was in good hands here in the United States. I have learned that the beauty of the United States Government is that we all are in fact in each other’s hands, and whether those are good hand sto be in is a matter of how willing we are to protect our fellow American citizens and to continually remind one another of the fundamental liberties guaranteed to us by the U.S. Constitution. I am writing this letter in an effort of self-advocacy; I hope that you, reader, will help me advocate for myself. It is my well-being and my six year old sister’s well-being that have been put on the line here. My general complaint is simply this: My constitutional rights, as well as my father’s and my sister’s, have been infringed upon by the Somerset County Court. Consequently, my sister, Ava, and I have been caused severe emotional pain and the inexcusably drastic upheaval of our lives. My father spend six months in federal prison for failing to respond to a court order mandating the transfer custody of my sister and me to DYFS – a court order neither he nor his lawyer was ever served; I was forced to spend ten months isolated in a homeless shelter, and my sister was placed in the custody of our mother who sexually abused us both. We were all robbed any opportunity to maintain our close relationships with one another. Why? More specific to this particular letter, I intend to address the fact that Somerset County Court cut me off from any contact with my father. This intrusion by the state upon the personal familial relationship between my father and me was abrupt, unfounded and unconstitutional. I would like to remind the Court of that which Justice O’Conner stated in Troxel v. Granville 527 U.S. 1069 (1999) speaking for the Court, The Fourteenth Amendment provides that no State shall ‘deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of the law.’ We have long recognized that the Amendment’s Due Process Clause, like its Fifth Amendment counterpart, ‘gaurantees more than fair process.’ The Clause includes a substantive component that ‘provides heightened protection against governmental interference with certain fundamental rights and liberty interest’ and ‘the liberty interest of parents in the care, custody, and control of their children – is perhaps the oldest of the fundamental liberty interests recognized by this Court. Smith v. City of Fontana, 818 f. 2d 1411 (9th Cir. 1985) recognizes that “the constitutional interest in familial companionship and society logically extends to protect children from unwarranted state interference with their relationships with their parents.” Therefore, it would only make sense for any U.S. Court on the state or federal level to have issued a court order removing me from my father’s custody after a strictly scrutinized interest was substantiated by indisputable evidence proving abuse or neglect by my father. This interest of the court should have been made apparent via record of fair trial out of respect for Due Process Rights before any restrictions were placed on my relationship with my father. However, this is not at all what took place. The only explanation DYFS has been able to give me as to why my relationship with my father has suddenly become something I am not allowed to have is that the judge was concerned he might “brainwash” me. The thoughts and feelings I express are the same as those I expressed while living with my father. After being isolated from my father for an entire year plus, not once have I said a singly thing contradictory to what I’ve been saying all along – my mother is a disturbed woman, and while I am finally ready to come to grips with the sexual abuse I suffered by certain members of my family on the maternal side (including my mother), I simply do not feel that attempting a relationship with my mother would be at all appropriate for me. All I want to do is to be living with my father again and for my sister’s complaints of sexual abuse to be paid attention. It’s obscene that my sister’s safety should be so ignored. It does not make any sense that allegations of brainwashing should keep me completely from my father, while allegations made by my sister herself of sexual abuse do not keep my sister from living with my mother when she did not even want to live there in the first place. If she feels more comfortable living with our father, she should be able to do that. He’s an amazing father. I only wish that more kids had a parent who makes them feel as special as my father makes us feel. And as for my father’s supposed knack for “brainwashing” me, - If the consistency of my perspective throughout this tumultuous ordeal does not prove it to be a perspective all my own, then I do not know what will. All I have to offer is the truth. Plain and simple. Courts, lawyers, state officials… they can all pick it apart and challenge it as much as they’d like, but when it comes down to it – the truth is one thing you cannot manipulate. Only people can be manipulated. Please, do not allow yourself to be manipulated into forfeiting freedom to corruption in the single governing body under which are all united. Do not let fear oppress liberty. I understand that many people who have been involved in dealing with my case have been victims, too. I would like to take the opportunity to make it clear that my goal is not to avenge them. My goal is to show them. The only proper thing to do now is to show the truth to those people who have been deceived, and to show what is right to those people who have done wrong. As Benjamin Franklin once pointed out, “There is no kind of dishonesty into which otherwise good people more easily and frequently fall than that of defrauding the government.” The evidence of this corruption is all there. I just need someone to help me get my voice heard and to encourage others involved to stand up to it. DOES ANYBODY CARE?……SOMEONE? WHAT SECRET IS SO HORRIFYING THAT RUDY GIULIANI ORDERED AND BERNARD KERIK CARRIED OUT THE TORTURE AND CHILD ABUSE OF TWO LITTLE GIRLS?
Monday, December 11, 2006
Dear Does Anybody Care?,
My name is Talia Ray, and I am writing to provide a vital part to a case that the court has undertaken involving my parents’ divorce/custody of my sister, Ava Ray, and me. Firstly, it is critical to the reader’s understanding that they are familiar with the more than likely connections Bernard Kerik (former Police Commissioner and Homeland Security nominee) has with this case. The only reason that I am aware of Mr. Kerik as the primary source of the shamelessly blatant corruption in my “complicated” or “special” case, as many DYFS workers and other Somerset County officials whom I have encountered like to call it, is the simple fact that my mother told me of Bernie’s involvement. Threatened me with it, I should say. My mother, Teresa Ray, told me in an argument we had some time around my freshman year of high school (2003 – 2004) that the judge would not allow me to live with my father, Larry Ray, in spite of my age (I was fifteen years old at the time, which gives my desire concerning the issue of with whom I would reside a little more weight.). When I questioned her apparent certainty that I would not end up living with my dad, she retorted in an overly confident tone that the judge was going to do whatever she wanted the judge to do. This outrageous claim was followed with another bizarre statement by my mother that “Bernie is helping her.” Due to the fact that my father does not involve mie in his personal business affairs (and nothing of his business affairs had yet appeared as a public topic of speculation in the media), I was unaware of the implications that statement had. My mother’s seemingly silly threats to have gained the ability to manipulate the Court into straying from truth and justice did not phase me much; I had confidence in our country’s judicial system. My father’s great respect for this country and the government we live under had always made me feel like I was in good hands here in the United States. I have learned that the beauty of the United States Government is that we all are in fact in each other’s hands, and whether those are good hand sto be in is a matter of how willing we are to protect our fellow American citizens and to continually remind one another of the fundamental liberties guaranteed to us by the U.S. Constitution. I am writing this letter in an effort of self-advocacy; I hope that you, reader, will help me advocate for myself. It is my well-being and my six year old sister’s well-being that have been put on the line here.
My general complaint is simply this: My constitutional rights, as well as my father’s and my sister’s, have been infringed upon by the Somerset County Court. Consequently, my sister, Ava, and I have been caused severe emotional pain and the inexcusably drastic upheaval of our lives. My father spend six months in federal prison for failing to respond to a court order mandating the transfer custody of my sister and me to DYFS – a court order neither he nor his lawyer was ever served; I was forced to spend ten months isolated in a homeless shelter, and my sister was placed in the custody of our mother who sexually abused us both. We were all robbed any opportunity to maintain our close relationships with one another. Why?
More specific to this particular letter, I intend to address the fact that Somerset County Court cut me off from any contact with my father. This intrusion by the state upon the personal familial relationship between my father and me was abrupt, unfounded and unconstitutional. I would like to remind the Court of that which Justice O’Conner stated in Troxel v. Granville 527 U.S. 1069 (1999) speaking for the Court,
The Fourteenth Amendment provides that no State shall ‘deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of the law.’ We have long recognized that the Amendment’s Due Process Clause, like its Fifth Amendment counterpart, ‘gaurantees more than fair process.’ The Clause includes a substantive component that ‘provides heightened protection against governmental interference with certain fundamental rights and liberty interest’ and ‘the liberty interest of parents in the care, custody, and control of their children – is perhaps the oldest of the fundamental liberty interests recognized by this Court.
Smith v. City of Fontana, 818 f. 2d 1411 (9th Cir. 1985) recognizes that “the constitutional interest in familial companionship and society logically extends to protect children from unwarranted state interference with their relationships with their parents.” Therefore, it would only make sense for any U.S. Court on the state or federal level to have issued a court order removing me from my father’s custody after a strictly scrutinized interest was substantiated by indisputable evidence proving abuse or neglect by my father. This interest of the court should have been made apparent via record of fair trial out of respect for Due Process Rights before any restrictions were placed on my relationship with my father.
However, this is not at all what took place. The only explanation DYFS has been able to give me as to why my relationship with my father has suddenly become something I am not allowed to have is that the judge was concerned he might “brainwash” me. The thoughts and feelings I express are the same as those I expressed while living with my father. After being isolated from my father for an entire year plus, not once have I said a singly thing contradictory to what I’ve been saying all along – my mother is a disturbed woman, and while I am finally ready to come to grips with the sexual abuse I suffered by certain members of my family on the maternal side (including my mother), I simply do not feel that attempting a relationship with my mother would be at all appropriate for me. All I want to do is to be living with my father again and for my sister’s complaints of sexual abuse to be paid attention.
It’s obscene that my sister’s safety should be so ignored. It does not make any sense that allegations of brainwashing should keep me completely from my father, while allegations made by my sister herself of sexual abuse do not keep my sister from living with my mother when she did not even want to live there in the first place. If she feels more comfortable living with our father, she should be able to do that. He’s an amazing father. I only wish that more kids had a parent who makes them feel as special as my father makes us feel. And as for my father’s supposed knack for “brainwashing” me, - If the consistency of my perspective throughout this tumultuous ordeal does not prove it to be a perspective all my own, then I do not know what will. All I have to offer is the truth. Plain and simple. Courts, lawyers, state officials… they can all pick it apart and challenge it as much as they’d like, but when it comes down to it – the truth is one thing you cannot manipulate. Only people can be manipulated.
Please, do not allow yourself to be manipulated into forfeiting freedom to corruption in the single governing body under which are all united. Do not let fear oppress liberty. I understand that many people who have been involved in dealing with my case have been victims, too. I would like to take the opportunity to make it clear that my goal is not to avenge them. My goal is to show them. The only proper thing to do now is to show the truth to those people who have been deceived, and to show what is right to those people who have done wrong. As Benjamin Franklin once pointed out, “There is no kind of dishonesty into which otherwise good people more easily and frequently fall than that of defrauding the government.” The evidence of this corruption is all there. I just need someone to help me get my voice heard and to encourage others involved to stand up to it.

]]> by: Cindy Jampel http://www.newsdissector.com/blog/2007/04/30/devastating-letters-to-george-tenet-and-rudy-giuliani/#comment-4313 Wed, 02 May 2007 14:39:51 +0000 http://www.newsdissector.com/blog/2007/04/30/devastating-letters-to-george-tenet-and-rudy-giuliani/#comment-4313 Lawrence Ray, Hero http://truthwins.info/ The Federal Government OPR, is in the process of overturning the “noted conviction” of Lawrence Ray. Nonetheless, sticking to the facts that have been out, Berard Kerik has been offered two years in prison as a plea deal, Kerik was arrested, charged and indicted in June 2006 in the Bronx. I’m sure you saw it in the news that other charges are coming out in the future in addition to what you are reading. Obviously, everyone in the world sees factually that he is a criminal. Doesn’t it make you wonder when you look into the record of the past, Kerik has criminal involvement as a teenager in Passic, there is in public record ties to organized crime in the 80’s. Kerik was kicked out of Saudi Arabia framing a Saudi doctor and they were kicked out of their own country. Additionally, there is a public record of DEA doing several investigations into Kerik and his partner Jerry Spiezile for taking money on drug raids when they were attached to the DEA Task Force. Kerik is a high school dropout and Phil, I am sure you are aware there are far too many other incidences of Kerik’s wrong doing to speak of. It does not beg any question in this instance, most people that I’ve spoken with are stunned about how glaringly obvious that it was no secret to people like Guiliani. Why would R Guiliani, an accomplished Federal Prosecutor have picked a man like B Kerik to Head the largest city police dept. in the world as the Commissioner of N.Y.P.D. As we have been , and did not need 911 to make us suddenly aware, of the existence of terrorism and the threat it always posed to our National Security, can you stop and think, it is abundantly apparent that R. Guiliani had to have know about all this all along. Nonetheless can you imagine that Bernard Kerik was the very man that our President chose to head the Department of Homeland Security. Be mindful it was at the request and urging of Rudi Guiliani. As far as I am concerned, whether intentional or mistake it would have been an unforgivable and frightening crime to be committed upon the American public by any president. History would have been looking back at this as left to be as another HUMAN ATROCITY. All of us will never forget the horror of 911. It has brought about changes of everyday life for everyone, Yet, Rudi Guliani and Bernard Kerik, as all of us are finding out have made and will continue to make extraordinary money upon the souls of the deceased of 911, and the profits are being paid by the pain and hard earned dollars of every single American. Everyone should stop, reflect and be thankful that one man, Lawrence Ray cared so much about all of us, had the integrity and the immense courage in December of 2004, to step forward with the truth reversing what was at a minimum an irresponsible and horrifying decision of President Bush. I don’t know if you are aware that is not the first time Lawrence Ray has done something of this magnitude for so many people. It was clearly beneficial to so many thousands of people. Look back to the recent Kosovo Crisis. specifically at the commitment American Troops and all attempts to stop the bombing as to avoid the senseless loss of live of thousands of American Troops. Lawrence Ray, Hero

http://truthwins.info/
The Federal Government OPR, is in the process of overturning the “noted conviction” of Lawrence Ray.

Nonetheless, sticking to the facts that have been out, Berard Kerik has been offered two years in prison as a plea deal, Kerik was arrested, charged and indicted in June 2006 in the Bronx. I’m sure you saw it in the news that other charges are coming out in the future in addition to what you are reading.

Obviously, everyone in the world sees factually that he is a criminal.

Doesn’t it make you wonder when you look into the record of the past, Kerik has criminal involvement as a teenager in Passic, there is in public record ties to organized crime in the 80’s. Kerik was kicked out of Saudi Arabia framing a Saudi doctor and they were kicked out of their own country.

Additionally, there is a public record of DEA doing several investigations into Kerik and his partner Jerry Spiezile for taking money on drug raids when they were attached to the DEA Task Force. Kerik is a high school dropout and Phil, I am sure you are aware there are far too many other incidences of Kerik’s wrong doing to speak of. It does not beg any question in this instance, most people that I’ve spoken with are stunned about how glaringly obvious that it was no secret to people like Guiliani. Why would R Guiliani, an accomplished Federal Prosecutor have picked a man like B Kerik to Head the largest city police dept. in the world as the Commissioner of N.Y.P.D.

As we have been , and did not need 911 to make us suddenly aware, of the existence of terrorism and the threat it always posed to our National Security,

can you stop and think, it is abundantly apparent that R. Guiliani had to have know about all this all along. Nonetheless can you imagine that Bernard Kerik was the very man that our President chose to head the Department of Homeland Security.

Be mindful it was at the request and urging of Rudi Guiliani. As far as I am concerned, whether intentional or mistake it would have been an unforgivable and frightening crime to be committed upon the American public by any president. History would have been looking back at this as left to be as another HUMAN ATROCITY. All of us will never forget the horror of 911. It has brought about changes of everyday life for everyone,

Yet, Rudi Guliani and Bernard Kerik, as all of us are finding out have made and will continue to make extraordinary money upon the souls of the deceased of 911, and the profits are being paid by the pain and hard earned dollars of every single American.

Everyone should stop, reflect and be thankful that one man, Lawrence Ray cared so much about all of us, had the integrity and the immense courage in December of 2004, to step forward with the truth reversing what was at a minimum an irresponsible and horrifying decision of President Bush.

I don’t know if you are aware that is not the first time Lawrence Ray has done something of this magnitude for so many people. It was clearly beneficial to so many thousands of people.

Look back to the recent Kosovo Crisis. specifically at the commitment American Troops and all attempts to stop the bombing as to avoid the senseless loss of live of thousands of American Troops.

]]> by: Dick Mac http://www.newsdissector.com/blog/2007/04/30/devastating-letters-to-george-tenet-and-rudy-giuliani/#comment-4271 Mon, 30 Apr 2007 18:06:36 +0000 http://www.newsdissector.com/blog/2007/04/30/devastating-letters-to-george-tenet-and-rudy-giuliani/#comment-4271 Thanks for the link Danny, and thanks for all your hard work over the years! It's an honor to be your fan! Thanks for the link Danny, and thanks for all your hard work over the years! It’s an honor to be your fan!

]]> by: Lawrence Ray http://www.newsdissector.com/blog/2007/04/30/devastating-letters-to-george-tenet-and-rudy-giuliani/#comment-4251 Mon, 30 Apr 2007 10:06:19 +0000 http://www.newsdissector.com/blog/2007/04/30/devastating-letters-to-george-tenet-and-rudy-giuliani/#comment-4251 Gary Hart, April 29,2007 Your letter is a responsible and refreshing stride toward the truth. There are "many truths" along the path in a journey of this nature. Where one stops as the destination is a matter of intention. To those who are unaware and believe what they are told, often have no means of knowing whether it is the whole picture or the real truth. The fact is that Rudy Giuliani is a criminal and a member of a criminal enterprise. Others involved in the enterprise are President Bush, Vice President Cheney, Bernard Kerik and too many to mention in this letter. They did not want to stop 9/11 they intended to let it happen, then profit from it. Giuliani is one of those who made enormous profits in the first Twenty Four Hrs. Those involved already effectively owned the stock of select companies, which would be selling technology and related products/services post attack. Members in "The Criminal Enterprise" had been paid well before 9/11. Americans were sold out in a sinister plot, which transacted its early deals in the Middle East by Dick Cheney and others, years before the Clintons stepped foot in the White House. Bernard Kerik and I met in what seemed unintended in 1995 in a Luncheonette in N.J. It was not an accident on the part of Kerik and others. By 1998 Kerik asked me to be his best man. An important step in their plan in 1998, which has now failed. Their advance planning techniques are effective to most. "Plausible deniability" being the single most frequent trait in a simple pattern. A common calling card when any bright prosecutor is an active criminal disguised as a prosecutor. When they could not buy me or my services they decided to ruin my credibility, starting by framing me in a Federal indictment in March 2000, based on a report by Bernard Kerik's best friend special agent Gary Uher who I briefed on their criminal activity in 1998. For many years I have been working to expose the truth, in an effective yet responsible manner about Bush, Cheney, Giuliani, kerik and a criminal enterprise. Objectives being to prevent as much of the harm and damage to our country and to see these reprobates brought to Justice. The record of my work in this regard is clear. I am the one who exposed Giuliani and Kerik In November 2004 to the N.Y. Daily News reporter Russ Buetner. No one else did. They subsequently attacked my two minor daughters, Talia and Ava in a gruesome manner. They got my ex-wife to go along because she coincidently had her own tragic-secret to hide so it served her purpose. Included in the more than 2,600 audio recordings I made of conversations with others, I have recorded Government officials saying they were told "it is the republican party Line to destroy Larry Ray", before I exposed Giuliani and Kerik in November 2004. Why would they want to do that? I agreed to work with the New York City Department of Investigation on the Kerik/Giuliani investigation Dec 20, 2004. Walter Arsenault had contacted me after I put out the news in Nov/Dec 2004. It seems D.O.I.was actually a "Trojan Horse" intending to do damage control, find out what evidence I had, secure it, bury the investigation, bury me and I can prove exactly that. Where were they before I gave it to the Daily News? These criminals fleeced New York on the watch of The First Deputy Commissioner of New York City's Dept. of Investigation Walter Arsenault. During the 2 yr investigation Walter Arsenault was in regular communication with the Bush White House. Being that Kerik had to step down after being nominated by President Bush to head America’s office of Homeland Security, why hadn’t the F.B.I. launched a thorough investigation? After all, it involved National Security, it involved the President of the United States, it crossed state lines and it happened in the White House. I believe the jurisdiction belonged to the F.B.I. Seems Federal to me. Why wasn’t the president outraged and responsible enough to order the F.B.I. to investigate? What was the Attorney General of the United States thinking ? Is Antonio Gonzales even allowed to think ? How come Gonzales did not take action? What about Vice President Cheney’s take charge personality? Cheney may have been to busy, maybe aboard the Sequoia with Greenspan as his guest. The F.B.I. is the best Investigative Law Enforcement Agency in the entire world in my opinion. I have worked with the F.B.I. on and off for twelve years and have experience with different agencies in various parts of the world for twenty-six years. The men and women I have worked with are honorable, bright, dedicated and well trained. They were told to stand down regarding Giuliani/Kerik. Not what these men and women wanted to do. Instead an agency in N.Y.C. did the investigation. Had the D.O.I. done their job in the nineties, Giuliani and Kerik would have never been thru the gates at the White House, they would have been behind the gates of a prison. If others and I were aware, so was Walter Arsenault. We had been working in the Eastern European Region and in 1994 it became clear to me that there existed a very dedicated effort to execute a large scale terrorist attack on the United States. None of us knew at the time in 1994 the attack would come to be known as 9/11. My effort since to expose the truth has been unnaturally difficult, unnaturally long and unnaturally costly. The American Terrorists; the very corrupt Bush/Cheney White House, and many corrupt politicians and officials such as Gonzales, Chertoff, Giuliani/Kerik , and Wolfowitz to only name a few. The ENEMY WITHIN. My two little girls and I have paid an unimaginable price and still are. Hurting my children is more painful than every other tactic they used to discourage and /or stop me in their effort to make sure I did not expose what I discovered in my work in Eastern Europe during the Bush Sr. Presidency regarding activities of Dick Cheney and others. N.A.T.O. I had been brought in to the Kosovo Crisis in an effort to avoid the senseless casualties to come in a ground offensive. I feel the Pentagon very accurately estimated anticipated casualties if a ground assault commenced. After I listened to the intelligence briefing the first night I was in Belgium at N.A.T.O. Headquarters, based on my analysis I presented a recommendation, which I believed to be the only available option. All in the room with the exception of Colonel Sponbeck agreed with me and asked how do we implement. I designed and submitted my tactical plan as I saw it. The necessary steps were completed over the next two days and I was then authorized. My first stop in the operation was Moscow. I accomplished both objectives, the cessation of the bombing campaign and mitigate the need for a ground offensive, thus avoiding the senseless loss of ground troops. I had also been tasked after flight 800 went down while Departing N.Y., to locate and retrieve any of the surplus Stinger Missiles we supplied when we appropriately backed the Mujahidin during the Afghan Conflict. I was tasked originally by the F.B.I. I located and arranged to take that load of stingers out of circulation. There were logistical problems for the Bureau and time not being friendly I completed that task with the C.I.A. I am told it was the largest load recovered at the time, which concerned me since I was tasked due to an emergent need, before that I had never paid attention that program and I would have thought we as a Nation would have been more successful in that regard. Mr. Hart I presume you have more than enough experience to know that any individual who is capable of successfully attaining objectives as the ones I state in this letter must be regarded in a particular manner to be tasked to begin with. I am and always have been proud of the fact I am an American. The current exposure of President Bush, Vice President Cheney, and others yet to be named, for lying to the American people about the link between Sadam Hussein and Al queda is directly due to my effort. It is well documented. The Washington Post Easter Sunday Cover Article, about the Bush White House and U.S. Attorney Gonzales knowing in advance about Bernard kerik Rudy Giuliani happened because I gave it to the Washington Post. Take a look at what was going on before and after that article. Cheney and others are responsible for the murders of United States Marines and other U.S. Military Personnel. How did it get this far? From President Bush, V.P. Cheney, Mike Chertoff, Bernard kerik all the way down to Judge Thomas Dilts, Judge Julie Marino, Judge Anne Bartlett, the D.Y.F.S office in Somerset County Court, Union County Prosecutors Office, Livingston twp and others in New Jersey will be exposed and charged for their crimes. Then it will be the responsibility of the Justice system in America to administer the law in a balanced and honest manner, nothing less, nothing more. It is of paramount importance to all of us the system do as it is intended in order for our country to begin healing. No witch hunts and burnings, yet no special favors either. All Americans and the entire world are already watching. Senator Hart, I was aware pre 9/11 of the reports you reference, including briefings with N.Y. Port Authority. Giuliani did do things, one was to build the Ultra Expensive Emergency Command Office in the World Trade Center, just one more for people to ask " how could Rudy have made a mistake like that "? It is simple he didn't make a mistake, it is the same pattern of his advance planning, he intended it to be one of several seeds of doubt to the public, worst yet maybe a jury. The same as asking, how could a man as smart as Rudy make someone who, is as ignorant, has a record of ties to organized crime and as uneducated as Bernard Kerik not only commissioner of corrections but then make him the New York City Police Commissioner? To ask it is to answer it. It is interesting after I fought alone for so long and have endured so much stating all along that Bush/Cheney wants America to go to war with Iraq for a sinister criminal agenda and finally get it out in the media, now George Tenet comes out stating the same thing. Curious. I hope some committee is already prepared to plug the wholes in our National Security due to many people who hold positions across the country in Homeland Security jobs as installs by Giuliani, Cheney, Kerik, or Chertoff. I am confident Mr. Giuliani and others will soon be charged, arrested and in jail awaiting trial for more than just witness tampering. I know, since I am one of the witness's Giuliani has tampered with. They are guilty of Treason. I have recently contacted the office of Hillary Clinton since she wants to question Rudy Giuliani in an open forum regarding the removal of the World Trade Center debris. I have not heard back from her. I have supportive evidence and can prove any of the above. I am willing to speak with you further if you like. You can contact me by email nisacray@gmail.com or can always ask Chuck Pitman, or Jim Jones, two very honorable friends. Warm Regards, Lawrence Ray Gary Hart, April 29,2007

Your letter is a responsible and refreshing stride toward the truth. There are “many truths” along the path in a journey of this nature. Where one stops as the destination is a matter of intention. To those who are unaware and believe what they are told, often have no means of knowing whether it is the whole picture or the real truth.

The fact is that Rudy Giuliani is a criminal and a member of a criminal enterprise. Others involved in the enterprise are President Bush, Vice President Cheney, Bernard Kerik and too many to mention in this letter. They did not want to stop 9/11 they intended to let it happen, then profit from it. Giuliani is one of those who made enormous profits in the first Twenty Four Hrs. Those involved already effectively owned the stock of select companies, which would be selling technology and related products/services post attack. Members in “The Criminal Enterprise” had been paid well before 9/11. Americans were sold out in a sinister plot, which transacted its early deals in the Middle East by Dick Cheney and others, years before the Clintons stepped foot in the White House. Bernard Kerik and I met in what seemed unintended in 1995 in a Luncheonette in N.J. It was not an accident on the part of Kerik and others. By 1998 Kerik asked me to be his best man. An important step in their plan in 1998, which has now failed. Their advance planning techniques are effective to most. “Plausible deniability” being the single most frequent trait in a simple pattern. A common calling card when any bright prosecutor is an active criminal disguised as a prosecutor. When they could not buy me or my services they decided to ruin my credibility, starting by framing me in a Federal indictment in March 2000, based on a report by Bernard Kerik’s best friend special agent Gary Uher who I briefed on their criminal activity in 1998.

For many years I have been working to expose the truth, in an effective yet responsible manner about Bush, Cheney, Giuliani, kerik and a criminal enterprise. Objectives being to prevent as much of the harm and damage to our country and to see these reprobates brought to Justice. The record of my work in this regard is clear. I am the one who exposed Giuliani and Kerik In November 2004 to the N.Y. Daily News reporter Russ Buetner. No one else did. They subsequently attacked my two minor daughters, Talia and Ava in a gruesome manner. They got my ex-wife to go along because she coincidently had her own tragic-secret to hide so it served her purpose.

Included in the more than 2,600 audio recordings I made of conversations with others, I have recorded Government officials saying they were told “it is the republican party Line to destroy Larry Ray”, before I exposed Giuliani and Kerik in November 2004. Why would they want to do that? I agreed to work with the New York City Department of Investigation on the Kerik/Giuliani investigation Dec 20, 2004. Walter Arsenault had contacted me after I put out the news in Nov/Dec 2004. It seems D.O.I.was actually a “Trojan Horse” intending to do damage control, find out what evidence I had, secure it, bury the investigation, bury me and I can prove exactly that. Where were they before I gave it to the Daily News? These criminals fleeced New York on the watch of The First Deputy Commissioner of New York City’s Dept. of Investigation Walter Arsenault. During the 2 yr investigation Walter Arsenault was in regular communication with the Bush White House. Being that Kerik had to step down after being nominated by President Bush to head America’s office of Homeland Security, why hadn’t the F.B.I. launched a thorough investigation? After all, it involved National Security, it involved the President of the United States, it crossed state lines and it happened in the White House. I believe the jurisdiction belonged to the F.B.I. Seems Federal to me. Why wasn’t the president outraged and responsible enough to order the F.B.I. to investigate? What was the Attorney General of the United States thinking ? Is Antonio Gonzales even allowed to think ? How come Gonzales did not take action? What about Vice President Cheney’s take charge personality? Cheney may have been to busy, maybe aboard the Sequoia with Greenspan as his guest.

The F.B.I. is the best Investigative Law Enforcement Agency in the entire world in my opinion. I have worked with the F.B.I. on and off for twelve years and have experience with different agencies in various parts of the world for twenty-six years. The men and women I have worked with are honorable, bright, dedicated and well trained. They were told to stand down regarding Giuliani/Kerik. Not what these men and women wanted to do. Instead an agency in N.Y.C. did the investigation.

Had the D.O.I. done their job in the nineties, Giuliani and Kerik would have never been thru the gates at the White House, they would have been behind the gates of a prison. If others and I were aware, so was Walter Arsenault.

We had been working in the Eastern European Region and in 1994 it became clear to me that there existed a very dedicated effort to execute a large scale terrorist attack on the United States. None of us knew at the time in 1994 the attack would come to be known as 9/11. My effort since to expose the truth has been unnaturally difficult, unnaturally long and unnaturally costly. The American Terrorists; the very corrupt Bush/Cheney White House, and many corrupt politicians and officials such as Gonzales, Chertoff, Giuliani/Kerik , and Wolfowitz to only name a few. The ENEMY WITHIN.

My two little girls and I have paid an unimaginable price and still are. Hurting my children is more painful than every other tactic they used to discourage and /or stop me in their effort to make sure I did not expose what I discovered in my work in Eastern Europe during the Bush Sr. Presidency regarding activities of Dick Cheney and others.

N.A.T.O. I had been brought in to the Kosovo Crisis in an effort to avoid the senseless casualties to come in a ground offensive. I feel the Pentagon very accurately estimated anticipated casualties if a ground assault commenced. After I listened to the intelligence briefing the first night I was in Belgium at N.A.T.O. Headquarters, based on my analysis I presented a recommendation, which I believed to be the only available option. All in the room with the exception of Colonel Sponbeck agreed with me and asked how do we implement. I designed and submitted my tactical plan as I saw it. The necessary steps were completed over the next two days and I was then authorized. My first stop in the operation was Moscow. I accomplished both objectives, the cessation of the bombing campaign and mitigate the need for a ground offensive, thus avoiding the senseless loss of ground troops.

I had also been tasked after flight 800 went down while Departing N.Y., to locate and retrieve any of the surplus Stinger Missiles we supplied when we appropriately backed the Mujahidin during the Afghan Conflict. I was tasked originally by the F.B.I. I located and arranged to take that load of stingers out of circulation. There were logistical problems for the Bureau and time not being friendly I completed that task with the C.I.A. I am told it was the largest load recovered at the time, which concerned me since I was tasked due to an emergent need, before that I had never paid attention that program and I would have thought we as a Nation would have been more successful in that regard.

Mr. Hart I presume you have more than enough experience to know that any individual who is capable of successfully attaining objectives as the ones I state in this letter must be regarded in a particular manner to be tasked to begin with. I am and always have been proud of the fact I am an American.

The current exposure of President Bush, Vice President Cheney, and others yet to be named, for lying to the American people about the link between Sadam Hussein and Al queda is directly due to my effort. It is well documented. The Washington Post Easter Sunday Cover Article, about the Bush White House and U.S. Attorney Gonzales knowing in advance about Bernard kerik Rudy Giuliani happened because I gave it to the Washington Post. Take a look at what was going on before and after that article.

Cheney and others are responsible for the murders of United States Marines and other U.S. Military Personnel. How did it get this far?

From President Bush, V.P. Cheney, Mike Chertoff, Bernard kerik all the way down to Judge Thomas Dilts, Judge Julie Marino, Judge Anne Bartlett, the D.Y.F.S office in Somerset County Court, Union County Prosecutors Office, Livingston twp and others in New Jersey will be exposed and charged for their crimes. Then it will be the responsibility of the Justice system in America to administer the law in a balanced and honest manner, nothing less, nothing more. It is of paramount importance to all of us the system do as it is intended in order for our country to begin healing. No witch hunts and burnings, yet no special favors either. All Americans and the entire world are already watching.

Senator Hart, I was aware pre 9/11 of the reports you reference, including briefings with N.Y. Port Authority. Giuliani did do things, one was to build the Ultra Expensive Emergency Command Office in the World Trade Center, just one more for people to ask ” how could Rudy have made a mistake like that “? It is simple he didn’t make a mistake, it is the same pattern of his advance planning, he intended it to be one of several seeds of doubt to the public, worst yet maybe a jury. The same as asking, how could a man as smart as Rudy make someone who, is as ignorant, has a record of ties to organized crime and as uneducated as Bernard Kerik not only commissioner of corrections but then make him the New York City Police Commissioner? To ask it is to answer it.

It is interesting after I fought alone for so long and have endured so much stating all along that Bush/Cheney wants America to go to war with Iraq for a sinister criminal agenda and finally get it out in the media, now George Tenet comes out stating the same thing. Curious.
I hope some committee is already prepared to plug the wholes in our National Security due to many people who hold positions across the country in Homeland Security jobs as installs by Giuliani, Cheney, Kerik, or Chertoff.

I am confident Mr. Giuliani and others will soon be charged, arrested and in jail awaiting trial for more than just witness tampering. I know, since I am one of the witness’s Giuliani has tampered with.

They are guilty of Treason.

I have recently contacted the office of Hillary Clinton since she wants to question Rudy Giuliani in an open forum regarding the removal of the World Trade Center debris. I have not heard back from her.

I have supportive evidence and can prove any of the above. I am willing to speak with you further if you like. You can contact me by email nisacray@gmail.com or can always ask Chuck Pitman, or Jim Jones, two very honorable friends.

Warm Regards,
Lawrence Ray

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